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The Sugyaהַסּוּגְיָא

We begin this portion of the shiur by concluding our discussion regarding the kashrus of a get signed by witnesses with non-Jewish names. The Gemara analyzes the ruling of Rabbi Yochanan, who validated such documents based on the presence of witnesses of transmission, and contrasts the halacha in Eretz Yisrael with the halacha regarding a get brought from overseas, where most Jews adopt names similar to those of non-Jews.

Following this, we learn a major new Mishnah that introduces a fundamental dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis. The Mishnah discusses a husband or master who sends a get or a bill of manumission to his wife or slave via an agent, and then wishes to retract before the document arrives. This leads into a deep halachic analysis of the concepts of "zachin" (acquiring a benefit for someone in their absence) and "chav" (acting to someone's detriment in their absence), comparing the status of a slave gaining his freedom to a woman receiving a get.

All introductions, summaries, and contextual notes are the editor's commentary and are not part of the original text.אַלע הַקְדָּמוֹת, סִכּוּמִים, און הערות זענען דעם רעדאַקטאָר'ס באַמערקונגען און זענען נישט קיין טייל פונעם אָריגינעלן טעקסט.
Questionקוּשְׁיָא

עֵדִים הַחֲתוּמִין עַל הַגֵּט וּשְׁמוֹתָן כְּשֵׁמוֹת גּוֹיִם, מַהוּ?

With regard to witnesses who are signed on a bill of divorce and whose names are like the names of gentiles, what is the halachic status of the get?

Answerתֵּרוּץ

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לָא בָּא לְיָדֵינוּ אֶלָּא לוֹקוּס וְלוּס, וְהִכְשַׁרְנוּ.

Rabbi Yochanan said to him: There came into our hands only cases where the signatures were names such as Lukos and Los, and we validated them because we knew they were Jews.

Inferenceדִּיּוּק

וְדַוְקָא לוֹקוּס וְלוּס, דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי יִשְׂרָאֵל דְּמַסְּקִי בִּשְׁמָהָתַיְיהוּ, אֲבָל שְׁמָהָתָא אַחֲרִינֵי דִּשְׁכִיחִי יִשְׂרָאֵל דְּמַסְּקִי בִּשְׁמָהָתַיְיהוּ – לָא.

The Gemara infers: And this is specifically true of names like Lukos and Los, where it is not common for Jews to be called by their names, so we know they are gentiles and we can rely on the witnesses of transmission; but other names where it is common for Jews to be called by their names, so we might mistake them for Jewish signatures, no, they are not valid.

Objectionפִּירְכָא

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: גִּיטִּין הַבָּאִים מִמְּדִינַת הַיָּם וְעֵדִים חֲתוּמִים עֲלֵיהֶם, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁשְּׁמוֹתֵיהֶן כִּשְׁמוֹת גּוֹיִם – כְּשֵׁירִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁרוֹב יִשְׂרָאֵל שֶׁבְּחוּצָה לָאָרֶץ שְׁמוֹתֵיהֶן כִּשְׁמוֹת גּוֹיִם.

Reish Lakish challenged him from a braisa: Bills of divorce that come from overseas and witnesses are signed on them, even though their names are like the names of gentiles, they are valid, because the majority of Jews who are outside of Eretz Yisrael, their names are like the names of gentiles. This implies that even with common names they are valid!

Resolutionיִשּׁוּב

הָתָם, כִּדְקָתָנֵי טַעְמָא: מִפְּנֵי שֶׁרוֹב יִשְׂרָאֵל שֶׁבְּחוּצָה לָאָרֶץ שְׁמוֹתֵיהֶן כִּשְׁמוֹת גּוֹיִם.

The Gemara answers: There it is different, as it teaches the reason: Because the majority of Jews who are outside of Eretz Yisrael, their names are like the names of gentiles, so we assume the court verified them; but in Eretz Yisrael, we do not make this assumption.

Statementמֵימְרָא

וְאִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי, כִּי מַתְנִיתָא בְּעָא מִינֵּיהּ, וּפְשַׁט לֵיהּ מִמַּתְנִיתָא.

And there are those who say a different version: Like the braisa he asked him, and he resolved it for him from the braisa itself, that they are valid.

מִשְׁנָהMishnah
Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

מַתְנִי׳ הָאוֹמֵר ״תֵּן גֵּט זֶה לְאִשְׁתִּי, וּשְׁטַר שִׁחְרוּר זֶה לְעַבְדִּי״, אִם רָצָה לַחֲזוֹר בִּשְׁנֵיהֶן – יַחְזוֹר, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר.

MISHNAH: One who says to an agent, "Give this bill of divorce to my wife, or this bill of manumission to my slave," if he wants to retract in both of them before they reach the recipient, he may retract; these are the words of Rabbi Meir.

Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: בְּגִיטֵּי נָשִׁים, אֲבָל לֹא בְּשִׁחְרוּרֵי עֲבָדִים;

And the Sages say: He may retract in bills of divorce for women, but not in bills of manumission for slaves;

Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

לְפִי שֶׁזָּכִין לָאָדָם שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו, וְאֵין חָבִין לוֹ אֶלָּא בְּפָנָיו;

because we can acquire a benefit for a person in his absence, but we cannot act to his detriment except in his presence.

Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

שֶׁאִם יִרְצֶה שֶׁלֹּא לָזוּן אֶת עַבְדּוֹ – רַשַּׁאי, וְשֶׁלֹּא לָזוּן אֶת אִשְׁתּוֹ – אֵינוֹ רַשַּׁאי.

This is because if a master wants not to sustain his slave, he is permitted to do so, but if a husband wants not to sustain his wife, he is not permitted to do so.

Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

אָמַר לָהֶם: וַהֲרֵי הוּא פּוֹסֵל אֶת עַבְדּוֹ מִן הַתְּרוּמָה, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁהוּא פּוֹסֵל אֶת אִשְׁתּוֹ!

Rabbi Meir said to them: But behold, he disqualifies his slave from eating terumah by freeing him, just as he disqualifies his wife from eating terumah by divorcing her! Thus, freeing a slave is also a detriment.

Mishnahמִשְׁנָה

אָמְרוּ לוֹ: מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא קִנְיָינוֹ.

The Sages said to him: The slave's right to eat terumah is not a personal privilege, but because he is his master's acquisition, and once he is freed, that acquisition ceases.

גְּמָרָאGemara
Gemaraגְּמָרָא

גְּמָ׳ יָתֵיב רַב הוּנָא וְרַב יִצְחָק בַּר יוֹסֵף קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי יִרְמְיָה, וְיָתֵיב רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה וְקָא מְנַמְנֵם,

GEMARA: Rav Huna and Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef were sitting before Rabbi Yirmeyah, and Rabbi Yirmeyah was sitting and dozing,

Statementמֵימְרָא

וְיָתֵיב רַב הוּנָא וְקָאָמַר: שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ מִדְּרַבָּנַן, הַתּוֹפֵס לְבַעַל חוֹב, קָנָה.

and Rav Huna sat and said: Learn from this ruling of the Rabbis that one who seizes property on behalf of a creditor from a debtor, has acquired it for him.

Questionקוּשְׁיָא

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יִצְחָק בַּר יוֹסֵף: וַאֲפִילּוּ בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁחָב לַאֲחֵרִים?

Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef said to him: And is this so even in a place where it causes a loss to others, such as other creditors?

Answerתֵּרוּץ

אָמַר לֵיהּ: אִין.

Rav Huna said to him: Yes.

Gemaraגְּמָרָא

אַדְּהָכִי אִיתְּעַר בְּהוּ רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה.

In the meantime, Rabbi Yirmeyah woke up and heard them.

Statementמֵימְרָא

אֲמַר לְהוּ: דַּרְדְּקֵי! הָכִי אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: הַתּוֹפֵס לְבַעַל חוֹב בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁחָב לַאֲחֵרִים – לֹא קָנָה.

He said to them: Children! So said Rabbi Yochanan: One who seizes property on behalf of a creditor in a place where it causes a loss to others does not acquire it.

Explanationבֵּאוּר

וְאִם תֹּאמַר: מִשְׁנָתֵינוּ! כׇּל הָאוֹמֵר ״תְּנוּ״, כְּאוֹמֵר ״זְכוּ״ דָּמֵי.

And if you say that our Mishnah contradicts this, because the agent acquires the get of liberation for the slave despite the loss to the master, that is because anyone who says "give" is like one who says "acquire" on behalf of the recipient, so the master himself authorized the acquisition.

Statementמֵימְרָא

אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: הַתּוֹפֵס לְבַעַל חוֹב בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁחָב לַאֲחֵרִים, בָּאנוּ לְמַחְלוֹקֶת רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר וְרַבָּנַן.

Rav Chisda said: Regarding one who seizes property on behalf of a creditor in a place where it causes a loss to others, we have arrived at the dispute of Rabbi Eliezer and the Rabbis.

Proofרְאָיָה

דִּתְנַן: מִי שֶׁלִּיקֵּט אֶת הַפֵּאָה, וְאָמַר ״הֲרֵי זוֹ לִפְלוֹנִי עָנִי״, רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אָמַר: זָכָה לוֹ, וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: יִתְּנֶנּוּ לְעָנִי הַנִּמְצָא רִאשׁוֹן.

As we learned in a Mishnah: One who gathered pe'ah and said, "Behold, this is for so-and-so, a poor person," Rabbi Eliezer says: He has acquired it for him; and the Sages say: He must give it to the first poor person who is found.

Statementמֵימְרָא

אָמַר אַמֵּימָר, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב פָּפָּא:

Ameimar said, and some say it was Rav Pappa:

Summaryסִכּוּם

The Gemara first clarifies that while Rabbi Yochanan validated a get signed with distinct non-Jewish names like Lukos and Los, ambiguous names in Eretz Yisrael are invalid due to the concern that people might mistakenly rely on actual non-Jews. However, for documents coming from overseas, we assume the local court verified the Jewish identity of the signees, as most Jews there use non-Jewish names. Moving to the Mishnah, the Rabbis rule that a master cannot retract a bill of manumission once it is in the agent's hand, because freeing a slave is entirely to his benefit (a "zechus"), whereas a husband can retract a get because divorce is considered a detriment ("chov") to a woman. In the Gemara, Rav Huna attempts to prove from here that one can seize property on behalf of a creditor even if it causes a loss to other creditors. However, Rabbi Yirmeya wakes from his slumber to correct this, citing Rabbi Yochanan's ruling that such a seizure is invalid, and explaining that the case of the slave is unique because the master's instruction of "give" is halachically equivalent to "acquire on behalf of" the slave.

לְמַעֲשֶׂהWhat To Take Home

My dear friend, look at the beautiful picture the Gemara paints for us. Two young talmidei chachamim, Rav Huna and Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef, are sitting and discussing a deep point of Torah. Their rebbe, Rabbi Yirmeya, is sitting right there, dozing off. Yet, the moment he hears them make a mistake in the halakha, he wakes up immediately to guide them. He calls them "dardekei"—children—not to put them down, chas v'shalom, but with the deep, protective love of a father who cannot let his children wander off the path of truth.

This is the essence of what a true rebbe is, and it is how Hashem looks at each of us. Sometimes we feel like we are learning or doing our avodah in the dark, as if Heaven is "dozing" and not watching our struggles. But the truth is, Hashem is always listening, intimately connected to every word of Torah we speak and every effort we make. The moment we need guidance, the moment we reach out for the truth, He is there to awaken our hearts and show us the way.

We must also learn from Rabbi Yirmeya how to care for our fellow Yidden. When you see someone struggling or making a mistake, do not remain asleep. Wake up, step in with warmth and love, and help guide them back to the clear truth of the Torah.

Today, when you learn or daven, speak the words clearly and with heart, knowing that Hashem is listening to every single word you utter, ready to guide you.

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